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In introducing, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, available at DesiringGod.org, John Piper says this: «You can't make God look bigger than he is or greater than he is. He's always greater than we think he is and our job is to try to see him for what he really and so my argument is [that] God's purpose in creating the universe and his purpose in sending his son and his purpose in sending me here tonight and his purpose in Christianity all over the world is to maximize our pleasure and to magnify like a telescope Jesus Christ who is greater than anybody thinks he is and needs to be made to look that way in the world. Which is what we are designed to do. Your life was created to magnify Jesus Christ in delighting in him. So let me talk about the destruction of this pleasure».

These statements are meaningful to you? Why not listen to the sermon in its entirety, as I am setting out to do while writing these lines, and report here what it is primarily talking about, and how this may impact your life right now.

 
Posté : 2016-07-06 09:21
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Based on John Piper's sermon, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, what is the aim of God?

 
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Based on John Piper's sermon, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, what hinders the aim of God?

 
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Based on John Piper's sermon, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, what is the destruction of pleasure? What does John Piper attempt to describe when he talks about the destruction of pleasure? What is he talking about?

 
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Based on John Piper's sermon, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, how are these destroyers destroyed?

 
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Based on John Piper's sermon, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, what is Christianity all about?

 
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Based on John Piper's, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, how can deceitful pleasures be undone?

 
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Based on Piper's, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org, how can we magnify Christ through pleasure?

 
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Let's come back to what John Piper says as he opens up: "The aim of God. I know it sounds incredibly presumptuous to talk about the aim of God, but this little book here called the Bible, this book is I believe the word of God from which I will take all of my insights and answers tonight. The God who inspired it, what's he about in creating the universe? What's he about in running history in the way he's run it and sending his son into it. What's the point? Here's my answer to that. God's aim or the aim of Jesus Christ or the aim of Christianity is to maximize your pleasure and to magnify his greatness. To maximize our pleasure, and I'm thinking quantitatively and qualitatively. [...]" (quoted from John Piper's introduction of Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, available at DesiringGod.org).

After having listened to the entire sermon from which this quote is taken, how would you respond to the above statement? And how do you contribute to God's aim in your life that you experience pleasure in Him no matter where your day-to-day activities lead you?

 
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John Piper says: "My assumption in that title [Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure] [...]. The pleasure I have in mind is the pleasure God means for us to have for ever and ever which is 10,000 times greater than anybody can imagine and 10,000 times longer than you can count. So both quantitatively in terms of time and qualitatively in terms of exquisiteness of satisfaction. What God has to give to us is better than anything anybody else can give you. And that is being destroyed." How would you respond to that statement?

Reference: John Piper's, Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure, at DesiringGod.org.

 
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In the preceding posts, I extracted portions of the introduction, splitting them apart. I wanted to draw attention to certain aspects that seemed important. In doing so, I realized later, I did not make as explicit as I would have liked one key dimension. So here is the introduction in its entirety, as it can be found in the transcript provided with the audio of Undoing the Destruction of Pleasure:
The following is an unedited transcription of the audio.

The aim of God. I know it sounds incredibly presumptuous to talk about the aim of God, but this little book here called the Bible, this book is I believe the word of God from which I will take all of my insights and answers tonight. The God who inspired it, what's he about in creating the universe? What's he about in running history in the way he's run it and sending his son into it. What's the point?

Here's my answer to that. God's aim or the aim of Jesus Christ or the aim of Christianity is to maximize your pleasure and to magnify his greatness. To maximize our pleasure, and I'm thinking quantitatively and qualitatively. To maximize our pleasure qualitatively and quantitatively and to magnify his son Jesus Christ. And magnify is a tricky word because there are two ways to magnify something, with a magnifying glass or a telescope. Or say a microscope or say a telescope.

They magnify in exactly the opposite ways. A microscope magnifies by making little things look bigger than they are. So you can see them. And a telescope magnifies by making huge things that look little to the naked look more like they really are. That's very different. A star looks little to the naked eye. It's very big. A telescope magnifies by making that little thing to the naked eye look like what it really is. Whereas a microscope takes a thing that really is teeny weenie look like what it isn't making it bigger. Now if you do the latter with God, that is if you try to magnify God with a microscope you blasphemy.

You can't make God look bigger than he is or greater than he is. He's always greater than we think he is and our job is to try to see him for what he really and so my argument is God's purpose in creating the universe and his purpose in sending his son and his purpose in sending me here tonight and his purpose in Christianity all over the world is to maximize our pleasure and to magnify like a telescope Jesus Christ who is greater than anybody thinks he is and needs to be made to look that way in the world. Which is what we are designed to do. Your life was created to magnify Jesus Christ in delighting in him. So let me talk about the destruction of this pleasure.

The illustration spelt out in the third paragraph about the difference between magnifying something small through a microscope or something huge through a telescope is what I wanted to make explicit here. Is it not true that Christ is viewed much smaller than He actually is in reality, like a star that appears so small in the sky at night when we look at it with our bare eyes? Your response?

So, do we magnify Christ as through a microscope, as if he were tiny but needed to make him bigger in order to perceive him, or do we magnify Him as through a telescope, realizing he is so huge that we barely succeed in comprehending how great He truly is?

 
Posté : 2016-07-07 02:48
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